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== Driznaft: Kiravians in the Crusades ==
 
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| ‣ Melians and Sydona are key<br> ‣ Need to coørdinate with Banglazesh
‣ t. Urcea pro:
  ‣ i think you're actually best positioned for crusades to naturally lead into kiravian empire abroad
    loose coscivians would be all over crusading
    coscivian crusader states everywhere
    the states continue to exist just sort of due to lack of opposition and inertia until ideas about like
    Great Coscivia and political unity of these places comes about later
    granted a crusader state surviving until the 17th century at earliest is a long time
    are there any analogous pre nationalism movements like this? would be worth researching
  ‣ the less fun but more plausible option ends up being like Coscivian noble families in these places keep dying out, causing more and more distant relations to be 
    more or less forced to assume them overseas while being increasingly more poor and irrelevant, such that you end up having prosperous Kiravians basically passing      up foreign thrones
    and in many cases they just end up being bequeathed to the kiravian state
    whch i think would bebest for the melians as the crusader state par excellence unless you have something in mind for them
 
‣ Some form of escheat where heirless lands and titles revert to His Marbliness
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Revision as of 14:01, 10 January 2023

Driznaft: Kiravians in the Crusades

Caption text
Notes
‣ Melians and Sydona are key
‣ Need to coørdinate with Banglazesh
‣ t. Urcea pro:
 ‣ i think you're actually best positioned for crusades to naturally lead into kiravian empire abroad
   loose coscivians would be all over crusading
   coscivian crusader states everywhere
   the states continue to exist just sort of due to lack of opposition and inertia until ideas about like
   Great Coscivia and political unity of these places comes about later
   granted a crusader state surviving until the 17th century at earliest is a long time
   are there any analogous pre nationalism movements like this? would be worth researching
 ‣ the less fun but more plausible option ends up being like Coscivian noble families in these places keep dying out, causing more and more distant relations to be   
   more or less forced to assume them overseas while being increasingly more poor and irrelevant, such that you end up having prosperous Kiravians basically passing       up foreign thrones
   and in many cases they just end up being bequeathed to the kiravian state
   whch i think would bebest for the melians as the crusader state par excellence unless you have something in mind for them

‣ Some form of escheat where heirless lands and titles revert to His Marbliness