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The Vicariates of Fhainnlannachaeran were administrative divisions of the Kingdom of Fhainnlannachaeran (modern [[Faneria]]), based largely on the old borders of the princedoms and free cities of pre-Royal Fhainnin homelands. Each was ruled by a Vicar; nominally a prince within his own lands, each reported to the King with various levels of loyalty depending on time, distance, and the individual kings and Vicars as well as local political considerations. The power of the Vicariates waxed and waned dramatically over the course of their existences, and several were folded into each other or created from whole cloth over the centuries.
The '''dissolution of the Deric States''' was a multi-staged process that brought about the end of the [[Deric States]] organization specifically and the post-[[Second Great War]] geopolitical status quo of [[Dericania]] generally.  
=Organization and Role=
Most Vicariates were organized under greater Grand Vicariates, creating a three-tiered system (sometimes four, if a city was run under a mayor or a local council instead of the local Vicar. A Vicariate was ruled by a Vicar who was appointed by their superior (typically the lord of a Grand Vicariate, a Vicar-Prince, but occasionally by the ''Rih'' after the [[Second Princes' War]]), and although some polities were recognized as being Duchies in the southern Levantine fashion, they functionally remained identical to Vicariates and are collectively included in the classification.
==Vicarial Powers==
Prior to Second Prince's War: levy taxes, knight people, elect the king, effectively had power to make laws, could judge cases unilaterally (check how this ties with the election of Barheln, Wydd-Martainns, and then Suthar-Martainns, the last of which defeated the elected antiking); essentially feudal elector vassals, with the capital vicariate being the King's direct property and usually run by an appointed Vicar-Regent


After Second War: lost rights to levy taxes directly, collected still until 1870 with centralized mint and bank; *effectively* became rubber stamp for kingly succession, could originally still judge cases unilaterally but later were restricted to overseeing civil disputes with a few checks; lost the power to raise their own vassal armies, had to get king to rubber-stamp appointment of their immediate vassal lords
==Background==
{{Main|Third Fratricide}}


Vicariates were the primary administrative division, with Vicar-Princes ruling over lands directly or through minor Counties. Some cities were declared 'crown cities', or essentially directly ruled by the Crown; however, this was usually only achieved after a coup against the local lord or with the support of other local nobility. Over the course of the Royal era, most Vicariates became powerful fiefs in their own right, racing to centralize power in the hands of the Vicar before the Crown grabbed up too much of their historic lands directly.
===Questions of redundancy===
==List of Grand Vicariates and Independent Minor Vicariates==
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|+
!Checked? y/n
!Vicariate!!Capital City/Fort
!Formed
!Discontinued
!Fate
!Modern Province
!Notes
|-
|y
|[[Ceann a Haibne#Vicariate|Ceann a Haibne]]
|[[Port na Comhgall]]
|1702 (Conquered)
|1909 (Dismantled)
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|Haibnelann
|Formerly Archduchy of Reothadt; Military Frontier 1691-1702
|-
|y
|[[Ceann a Rhydwel#Vicariate|Ceann a Rhydwel]]
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|1365 (Submitted to Rih)
|1906 (Dismantled)
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|-
|y
|[[Connsmonan#Vicariate|Connsmonan]]
|[[Connsmonandún]]
|1398 (Formed via fiat)
|1908 (Dismantled)
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|Connsmonan
|
|-
|y
|[[Glean Bean#Vicariate|Glean Bean]]
|
|1434 (Conquered)
|1601 (Subsumed into Gleathan)
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|Gleathan
|
|-
|y
|[[Glean Teilt#Vicariate|Glean Teilt]]
|
|1458 (Conquered)
|1601 (Subsumed into Gleathan)
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|Gleathan
|
|-
|y
|[[Gleathan]]
|[[Mult Dúnbaile]]
|1601 (formed from Blean Bean and Glean Teilt)
|1908 (Dismantled)
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|Gleathan
|
|-
|y
|Lyukquar Astaigh
|[[Cirit Torr]]
|1756 from Lyukquar Military Region
|1909
|
|Lyukquar
|Military Frontier 1711-1756
|-
|y
|Lyukquar Oirthir
|[[Port na Habhainnsk]]
|1881 from Lyukquar Astaigh
|1909
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|Lyukquar
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|-
|y
|Lyukquar Searastaigh
|No Formal Capital
|1756 from Lyukquar Military Region
|1908
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|Lyukquar
|Military Frontier 1711-1756
|-
|
|[[Ceann a Torr#Vicariate|Ceann a Torr]]
|[[Luidún]]
|1401
|1907
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Turlann
|
|-
|
|[[Dunlann#Vicariate|Dunlann]]
|[[Lansgadh]]
|1847
|1907
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Dunlann
|Formed from parts of other, larger Vicariates which had been sketchy
|-
|
|[[Fhainnholdt#Vicariate|Fhainnholdt]]
|[[Dúnfhainn]]
|1405
|1907
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Fhainnholdt, Connsmonan
|
|-
|
|Itheachan
|[[Cirit Braigh]]
|1399
|1423
|Folded into Vicariate of Connsmonan
|Itheachan
|
|-
|
|[[Mhartainnvail#Vicariate|Mhartainnvail]]
|[[Teindún]]
|1398
|1907
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Mhartainnvail
|Royal Capital; governed directly by the Rih or appointed governor rather than a Vicar
|-
|y
|New Aenglia
|[[Ransford]]
|1823 (from Fiannria)
|1889 (to Fiannria)
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|n/a
|
|-
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|Northern Vrael
|No Formal Capital
|1595
|1913
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Vrael
|
|-
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|Southern Vrael
|[[Cirit Mull]]
|1544
|1914
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Vrael
|
|-
|
|[[Srathlann#Vicariate|Srathlann]]
|[[Sethsport]]
|1475
|
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Srathlann
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|Cheatharnaich
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|Cebhin
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|Askarata
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|Gwynmyr
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|Luinn
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|Inghran
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|Shaergleann
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|Meandhan
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==Notable Vicars==
=History=
===Foundation===
===First Princes' War===
Main Article: [[First Prince's War]]


1519-1545: First Princes' War: vicars end up victorious after a few kings (Caerls Màrtainn, Bronwyn Màrtainn, Rhys Wydd-Màrtainn) worth of fighting, and for their victory they end up with the authority to elect the King similar to the HLE's collegial electorate
Beginning in the 1970s, many scholars and public officials began to call into question the necessity of the Deric States organization given the existence of the [[Levantine Union]], which was established with many of the goals and functions as the Deric States on a larger scale. In the 1970s and 80s, many of the internal organs of the Deric States ceased to function, having given over their role to similar bodies within the Levantine Union. Two extremely prominent examples exist within the Deric States' structure. The first, relatively obscure body is the Council for Tariff and Trade Protection which intended to regulate the entire Deric States as one trading unit. While the Council still exists officially, it did not hold any official meetings after February 4 1962 and the Deric States ceased to distinguish itself from the rest of the Union as a matter of trade policy. The second and more prominent body that was superseded was the Confederation Defense Force (CDF), which served as the official armed forces as the Deric States until its constituent parts were largely integrated into the Coordinating Office of Dericanian Forces (CODF), a part of the [[Levantine Union Defense Council]]. The Deric States CDF continued to serve in the 2020s, but its defense jurisdiction solely consisted of [[Alba Concordia]] and began to be primarily associated with that city rather than with the Deric States as a whole.


the king who lost the war though continues on until 1557 and then he dies and his son presses hereditary claim, and while the vicars do elect him they say "shit let's not make a habit of this"
==Activist efforts prior to 2020==
he reigns and the same thing happens on his (Cledwyn Wydd-Màrtainn) death maybe 1570 or so
except the vicars refuse and the second vicarial(?) war begins
===Second Prince's War===
Main Article: [[Second Prince's War]]


1571-1583: Second Prince's War:  this second one is very bloody and just an overall mess, whole dynastic noble local families are wiped out, at least one king (Conan Wydd-Màrtainn, Ruaridh Sutharlan, Banrih (Queen) Cailean Suthar-Màrtainn) of fhanrrenenoit4hlwtf is killed in battle; it ends in a brokered peace; the king's election will continue, but the vicars will also be elected by local nobles, and since so many local families died, the right to appoint new local nobility reverts to the King (Donan Sutharlan-Màrtainn), who begins to solely grant lifetime peerages, i.e., no hereditary succession for the local holdings. typically he will continue to appoint from one family, but they now remain local to the crown - while the king could appoint hereditary nobility, none do because that's a stupid move, and so the local nobles (appointed by the king) begin electing as vicar basically anyone the king wants to keep their power in the family - this allows titles to be sold by the crown, too
In 2002, activist organizations from across the Deric States merged into an organization known as "Movement for Mediatization in the 21st Century", popularly shortened to "21MEDNOW". 21MEDNOW began to conduct both lobbying efforts with Dericanian governments as well as popular, grassroots agitation.
===Royal Era Proper===
this system continues until the 1690s when the kings (Sean Suthar-Màrtainn) begin to realize hey, we can just buy off the still remaining hereditary local lords


By 2015, polling indicated that, on average, 35 to 40% of residents of the Deric States supported the dissolution of the organization and further mediatization of its member states.


External conflicts and relative stability here
==Secession of the Vandarch Republic==


On 8 March [[2023]], the [[Vandarch Republic]] informed the [[Levantine Union]] that it intended to leave the Deric States and become a standalone member of the Levantine Union. The decision to leave lead to large popular demonstrations across [[Dericania]] organized by 21MEDNOW calling on its leaders to change the post-Great War geopolitical arrangements of the region. This triggered a diplomatic crisis among leaders of the Deric States, which met in a series of informal conferences and meetings in [[Corcra]] beginning in July of 2023. These meetings, commonly known as the "Congress of Corcra", failed to reach any cohesive answer, and in April of 2024 the ambassadors were asked to leave the city following the breakdown of negotiations.


by 1760 or so something like, i don't know,  87% of eligible nobility voting for the vicar have been appointed by the king (Cywir Suthar-Màrtainn). so what you have in place is kind of a centralist monarchy with a nominal election system that is really just trading favors with prominent families
With the [[Deric States]] playing a minor role in the immediate diplomatic aftermath of the [[Final War of the Deluge]], popular mediatization efforts temporarily lost priority in some of the Deric States, cooling tensions and the pace of dissolution. However, many of its members held elections in 2025 in which the dissolution was a key issue, any many pro-dissolution elements won across the Deric States in part due to 21MEDNOW support.


so the Vicariate, once a powerful institution, is basically a succession rubber stamp by that 1760 date - essentially reduced from local princes to appointed governors
==Secession of Lutsana==
On 14 August [[2026]], [[Lutsana]] informed the [[Levantine Union]] that it, like the [[Vandarch Republic]], would be leaving the [[Deric States]] and would becoming a standalone member of the Levantine Union. Unlike the Vandarch Republic's decision, it announced its withdrawal would be immediate. The decision to remain in the Deric States was a major issue in the 2025 Lutsanan elections, and the new government - formed in part by the Orenstian People's Revival Party - made withdrawal its top priority.


This is all about on track with what I'm thinking, as by 1775 there should be no more direct ties between officers and their noble status, at least in terms of laws banning commoners or reserving positions. in practice most officers will still be educated nobles
[[Category: Levantia]]
 
[[Category: Deric States]]
 
[[Category: Levantine Union]]
in the 1850s or so there should be a pretty large reform movement saying yes, the monarchy is great, but we should expand who can vote for the vicar besides local royal appointees - every property owning male, perhaps. which obviously every royalist says no to, but this idea of a "Liberal Vicariate" basically becomes a major political fixation and for a couple years it's "yes, but what if the vicariate also had power to do X", "yes, but what if they could also do Y, have oversight of Z, etc" - The main rub being nobody could agree on exactly how to work out what the vicars or a theoretical representative government (at the time still a fringe movement) would work in particular, as you'd have constitutional monarchists mixing with radicals and even a few revanchist wanting the old vicar's crown electorate back, but the liberal vicariate idea remains the "respectable" liberal opposition idea
 
 
the 1860s and 70s saw a dramatic rise in lower class and middle class movements. i don't know if you're familiar with how the french revolution went down ca 1787/1788, but convening the estates general was viewed as a panacea, a solution to all problems, but consequently meant different things to different people
 
As you'd have constitutional monarchists mixing with radicals and even a few revanchist wanting the old vicar's crown electorate back. here the liberal vicariate is that idea, and a lot of self interested rich locals could say "what if we just made it like how it was in the 1500s"
 
 
===Fhainnin Civil War and End of the Vicariates===
1906, one of the reformist factions finally managed to blow up the king (Ruaridh Sutharlan) and a couple key throne supporters at once, which kicked off a civil war between socialist, monarchist, and republican factions
 
with the republicans and socialist allying and said socialists immediately getting shanked in the back
 
 
maybe the direct reason for the bombing of the king in 1906 is
 
after a year and a half of major tumult, riots, etc, he finally decides to concede but only on the original point of landed male suffrage for the vicars
 
and when the vicars get together and say "we would like to also have authority over X, Y, and Z"
 
he says no
 
which is the breaking point for most radicals
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Revision as of 11:33, 16 April 2022

The dissolution of the Deric States was a multi-staged process that brought about the end of the Deric States organization specifically and the post-Second Great War geopolitical status quo of Dericania generally.

Background

Main article: Third Fratricide

Questions of redundancy

Beginning in the 1970s, many scholars and public officials began to call into question the necessity of the Deric States organization given the existence of the Levantine Union, which was established with many of the goals and functions as the Deric States on a larger scale. In the 1970s and 80s, many of the internal organs of the Deric States ceased to function, having given over their role to similar bodies within the Levantine Union. Two extremely prominent examples exist within the Deric States' structure. The first, relatively obscure body is the Council for Tariff and Trade Protection which intended to regulate the entire Deric States as one trading unit. While the Council still exists officially, it did not hold any official meetings after February 4 1962 and the Deric States ceased to distinguish itself from the rest of the Union as a matter of trade policy. The second and more prominent body that was superseded was the Confederation Defense Force (CDF), which served as the official armed forces as the Deric States until its constituent parts were largely integrated into the Coordinating Office of Dericanian Forces (CODF), a part of the Levantine Union Defense Council. The Deric States CDF continued to serve in the 2020s, but its defense jurisdiction solely consisted of Alba Concordia and began to be primarily associated with that city rather than with the Deric States as a whole.

Activist efforts prior to 2020

In 2002, activist organizations from across the Deric States merged into an organization known as "Movement for Mediatization in the 21st Century", popularly shortened to "21MEDNOW". 21MEDNOW began to conduct both lobbying efforts with Dericanian governments as well as popular, grassroots agitation.

By 2015, polling indicated that, on average, 35 to 40% of residents of the Deric States supported the dissolution of the organization and further mediatization of its member states.

Secession of the Vandarch Republic

On 8 March 2023, the Vandarch Republic informed the Levantine Union that it intended to leave the Deric States and become a standalone member of the Levantine Union. The decision to leave lead to large popular demonstrations across Dericania organized by 21MEDNOW calling on its leaders to change the post-Great War geopolitical arrangements of the region. This triggered a diplomatic crisis among leaders of the Deric States, which met in a series of informal conferences and meetings in Corcra beginning in July of 2023. These meetings, commonly known as the "Congress of Corcra", failed to reach any cohesive answer, and in April of 2024 the ambassadors were asked to leave the city following the breakdown of negotiations.

With the Deric States playing a minor role in the immediate diplomatic aftermath of the Final War of the Deluge, popular mediatization efforts temporarily lost priority in some of the Deric States, cooling tensions and the pace of dissolution. However, many of its members held elections in 2025 in which the dissolution was a key issue, any many pro-dissolution elements won across the Deric States in part due to 21MEDNOW support.

Secession of Lutsana

On 14 August 2026, Lutsana informed the Levantine Union that it, like the Vandarch Republic, would be leaving the Deric States and would becoming a standalone member of the Levantine Union. Unlike the Vandarch Republic's decision, it announced its withdrawal would be immediate. The decision to remain in the Deric States was a major issue in the 2025 Lutsanan elections, and the new government - formed in part by the Orenstian People's Revival Party - made withdrawal its top priority.

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