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The Vicariates of Fhainnlannachaeran were administrative divisions of the Kingdom of Fhainnlannachaeran (modern [[Faneria]]), based largely on the old borders of the princedoms and free cities of pre-Royal Fhainnin homelands. Each was ruled by a Vicar; nominally a prince within his own lands, each reported to the King with various levels of loyalty depending on time, distance, and the individual kings and Vicars as well as local political considerations. The power of the Vicariates waxed and waned dramatically over the course of their existences, and several were folded into each other or created from whole cloth over the centuries.
The Vicariates of Fhainnlannachaeran were administrative divisions of the Kingdom of Fhainnlannachaeran (modern [[Faneria]]), based largely on the old borders of the princedoms and free cities of pre-Royal Fhainnin homelands. Each was ruled by a Vicar; nominally a prince within his own lands, each reported to the King with various levels of loyalty depending on time, distance, and the individual kings and Vicars as well as local political considerations. The power of the Vicariates waxed and waned dramatically over the course of their existences, and several were folded into each other or created from whole cloth over the centuries.
=Organization and Role=
=Organization and Role=
==Vicarial Powers==
==Vicarial Powers==
Prior to Second Prince's War: levy taxes, knight people, elect the king, effectively had power to make laws, could judge cases unilaterally (check how this ties with the election of Barheln, Wydd-Martainns, and then Suthar-Martainns, the last of which defeated the elected antiking); essentially feudal elector vassals, with the capital vicariate being the King's direct property and usually run by an appointed Vicar-Regent
Prior to Second Prince's War: levy taxes, knight people, elect the king, effectively had power to make laws, could judge cases unilaterally (check how this ties with the election of Barheln, Wydd-Martainns, and then Suthar-Martainns, the last of which defeated the elected antiking); essentially feudal elector vassals, with the capital vicariate being the King's direct property and usually run by an appointed Vicar-Regent


After Second War: lost rights to levy taxes directly, collected still until 1870 with centralized mint and bank; *effectively* became rubber stamp for kingly succession, could originally still judge cases unilaterally but later were restricted to overseeing civil disputes with a few checks; lost the power to raise their own vassal armies, had to get king to rubber-stamp appointment of their immediate vassal lords
After Second War: lost rights to levy taxes directly, collected still until 1870 with centralized mint and bank; *effectively* became rubber stamp for kingly succession, could originally still judge cases unilaterally but later were restricted to overseeing civil disputes with a few checks; lost the power to raise their own vassal armies, had to get king to rubber-stamp appointment of their immediate vassal lords
==List of Vicariates==
==List of Vicariates==
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!Discontinued
!Discontinued
!Fate
!Fate
!Modern Province
!Notes
!Notes
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|1548
|1548
|Folded into Srathlann after [[Kurikilan Crusade]]
|Folded into Srathlann after [[Kurikilan Crusade]]
|Srathlann
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|1423
|1423
|1912
|1912
|Dismantled in Fhainnin Civil War
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Haibnelann
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|1822
|1822
|1907
|1907
|Dismantled in Fhainnin Civil War
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Rhydwellann
|Title created from whole cloth to make a capital province
|Title created from whole cloth to make a capital province
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|1401
|1401
|1907
|1907
|Dismantled in Fhainnin Civil War
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Turlann
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|-
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|1506
|1506
|1908
|1908
|Dismantled in Fhainnin Civil War
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Fhainnholdt
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|1730
|1730
|Folded into Vicariate of Connsmonan
|Folded into Vicariate of Connsmonan
|Connsmonan
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|1398
|1398
|1907
|1907
|Dismantled in Fhainnin Civil War
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Connsmonan
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|1847
|1847
|1907
|1907
|Dismantled in Fhainnin Civil War
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Dunlann
|Formed from parts of other, larger Vicariates which had been sketchy
|Formed from parts of other, larger Vicariates which had been sketchy
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|1405
|1405
|1908
|1908
|Dismantled in Fhainnin Civil War
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Fhainnholdt, Connsmonan
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|1601
|1601
|Split into Glean Bean and Glean Teilt
|Split into Glean Bean and Glean Teilt
|Gleathan
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|
|-
|-
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|1601
|1601
|1914
|1914
|Dismantled in Fhainnin Civil War
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Gleathan
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|-
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|1601
|1601
|1914
|1914
|Dismantled in Fhainnin Civil War
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Gleathan
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|-
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|1474
|1474
|1909
|1909
|Dismantled in Fhainnin Civil War
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Gwynmyr
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|-
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|1423
|1423
|Folded into Vicariate of Connsmonan
|Folded into Vicariate of Connsmonan
|Connsmonan
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|1656
|1656
|1910
|1910
|Dismantled in Fhainnin Civil War
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Fhainnholdt
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|1712
|1712
|1914
|1914
|Dismantled in Fhainnin Civil War
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Lyukquar
|
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|-
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|1781
|1781
|1915
|1915
|Dismantled in Fhainnin Civil War
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Lyukquar
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|-
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|1714
|1714
|1914
|1914
|Dismantled in Fhainnin Civil War
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Lyukquar
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|-
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|1398
|1398
|1907
|1907
|Dismantled in Fhainnin Civil War
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Mhartainnvail
|Royal Capital; governed directly by the Rih or appointed governor rather than a Vicar
|Royal Capital; governed directly by the Rih or appointed governor rather than a Vicar
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|-
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|[[Ransford]]
|[[Ransford]]
|1463
|1463
|188#
|1888
|Taken by Fiannria following Fourth Kin War
|Taken by Fiannria following Fourth Kin War
|n/a
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|-
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|1595
|1595
|1913
|1913
|Dismantled in Fhainnin Civil War
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Vrael
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|1544
|1544
|1914
|1914
|Dismantled in Fhainnin Civil War
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Vrael
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|1475
|1475
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|
|Dismantled in Fhainnin Civil War
|Dismantled in 1906 Civil War
|Srathlann
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|}
|}
==Notable Vicars==
==Notable Vicars==
=History=
=History=
===Foundation===
===Foundation===
===First Princes' War===
===First Princes' War===
Main Article: [[First Prince's War]]
Main Article: [[First Prince's War]]
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he reigns and the same thing happens on his (Cledwyn Wydd-Màrtainn) death maybe 1570 or so
he reigns and the same thing happens on his (Cledwyn Wydd-Màrtainn) death maybe 1570 or so
except the vicars refuse and the second vicarial(?) war begins
except the vicars refuse and the second vicarial(?) war begins
===Second Prince's War===
===Second Prince's War===
Main Article: [[Second Prince's War]]
Main Article: [[Second Prince's War]]


1571-1583: Second Prince's War:  this second one is very bloody and just an overall mess, whole dynastic noble local families are wiped out, at least one king (Conan Wydd-Màrtainn, Ruaridh Sutharlan, Banrih (Queen) Cailean Suthar-Màrtainn) of fhanrrenenoit4hlwtf is killed in battle; it ends in a brokered peace; the king's election will continue, but the vicars will also be elected by local nobles, and since so many local families died, the right to appoint new local nobility reverts to the King (Donan Sutharlan-Màrtainn), who begins to solely grant lifetime peerages, i.e., no hereditary succession for the local holdings. typically he will continue to appoint from one family, but they now remain local to the crown - while the king could appoint hereditary nobility, none do because that's a stupid move, and so the local nobles (appointed by the king) begin electing as vicar basically anyone the king wants to keep their power in the family - this allows titles to be sold by the crown, too
1571-1583: Second Prince's War:  this second one is very bloody and just an overall mess, whole dynastic noble local families are wiped out, at least one king (Conan Wydd-Màrtainn, Ruaridh Sutharlan, Banrih (Queen) Cailean Suthar-Màrtainn) of fhanrrenenoit4hlwtf is killed in battle; it ends in a brokered peace; the king's election will continue, but the vicars will also be elected by local nobles, and since so many local families died, the right to appoint new local nobility reverts to the King (Donan Sutharlan-Màrtainn), who begins to solely grant lifetime peerages, i.e., no hereditary succession for the local holdings. typically he will continue to appoint from one family, but they now remain local to the crown - while the king could appoint hereditary nobility, none do because that's a stupid move, and so the local nobles (appointed by the king) begin electing as vicar basically anyone the king wants to keep their power in the family - this allows titles to be sold by the crown, too
===Royal Era Proper===
===Royal Era Proper===
this system continues until the 1690s when the kings (Sean Suthar-Màrtainn) begin to realize hey, we can just buy off the still remaining hereditary local lords
this system continues until the 1690s when the kings (Sean Suthar-Màrtainn) begin to realize hey, we can just buy off the still remaining hereditary local lords




External conflicts and relative stability here
External conflicts and relative stability here




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===Fhainnin Civil War and End of the Vicariates===
===Fhainnin Civil War and End of the Vicariates===
1906, one of the reformist factions finally managed to blow up the king (Ruaridh Sutharlan) and a couple key throne supporters at once, which kicked off a civil war between socialist, monarchist, and republican factions
1906, one of the reformist factions finally managed to blow up the king (Ruaridh Sutharlan) and a couple key throne supporters at once, which kicked off a civil war between socialist, monarchist, and republican factions


with the republicans and socialist allying and said socialists immediately getting shanked in the back
with the republicans and socialist allying and said socialists immediately getting shanked in the back




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which is the breaking point for most radicals
which is the breaking point for most radicals
[[Category:Faneria]]
[[Category:Faneria]]
[[Category:History]]
[[Category:History]]

Revision as of 14:07, 31 May 2021

The Vicariates of Fhainnlannachaeran were administrative divisions of the Kingdom of Fhainnlannachaeran (modern Faneria), based largely on the old borders of the princedoms and free cities of pre-Royal Fhainnin homelands. Each was ruled by a Vicar; nominally a prince within his own lands, each reported to the King with various levels of loyalty depending on time, distance, and the individual kings and Vicars as well as local political considerations. The power of the Vicariates waxed and waned dramatically over the course of their existences, and several were folded into each other or created from whole cloth over the centuries.

Organization and Role

Vicarial Powers

Prior to Second Prince's War: levy taxes, knight people, elect the king, effectively had power to make laws, could judge cases unilaterally (check how this ties with the election of Barheln, Wydd-Martainns, and then Suthar-Martainns, the last of which defeated the elected antiking); essentially feudal elector vassals, with the capital vicariate being the King's direct property and usually run by an appointed Vicar-Regent

After Second War: lost rights to levy taxes directly, collected still until 1870 with centralized mint and bank; *effectively* became rubber stamp for kingly succession, could originally still judge cases unilaterally but later were restricted to overseeing civil disputes with a few checks; lost the power to raise their own vassal armies, had to get king to rubber-stamp appointment of their immediate vassal lords

List of Vicariates

Caption
Vicariate Capital City/Fort Formed Discontinued Fate Modern Province Notes
Askarata Kurikila 1487 1548 Folded into Srathlann after Kurikilan Crusade Srathlann
Ceann a Haibne Port na Comhgall 1423 1912 Dismantled in 1906 Civil War Haibnelann
Ceann a Rhydwel Oirthidún 1822 1907 Dismantled in 1906 Civil War Rhydwellann Title created from whole cloth to make a capital province
Ceann a Torr Luidún 1401 1907 Dismantled in 1906 Civil War Turlann
Cebhin Cebhin Dún 1506 1908 Dismantled in 1906 Civil War Fhainnholdt
Cheatharnaich Meadhainnigh 1398 1730 Folded into Vicariate of Connsmonan Connsmonan
Connsmonan Connsmonandún 1398 1907 Dismantled in 1906 Civil War Connsmonan
Dunlann Lansgadh 1847 1907 Dismantled in 1906 Civil War Dunlann Formed from parts of other, larger Vicariates which had been sketchy
Fhainnholdt Dúnfhainn 1405 1908 Dismantled in 1906 Civil War Fhainnholdt, Connsmonan
Gleathan Mult Dúnbaile 1471 1601 Split into Glean Bean and Glean Teilt Gleathan
Glean Bean Igar Dún 1601 1914 Dismantled in 1906 Civil War Gleathan
Glean Teilt Mult Dúnbaile 1601 1914 Dismantled in 1906 Civil War Gleathan
Gwynmyr Gwyn Dún 1474 1909 Dismantled in 1906 Civil War Gwynmyr
Itheachan Cirit Braigh 1399 1423 Folded into Vicariate of Connsmonan Connsmonan
Luinn Luinn Dún 1656 1910 Dismantled in 1906 Civil War Fhainnholdt
Lyukquar Astaigh Cirit Torr 1712 1914 Dismantled in 1906 Civil War Lyukquar
Lyukquar Oirthir Port na Habhainnsk 1781 1915 Dismantled in 1906 Civil War Lyukquar
Lyukquar Searastaigh No Formal Capital 1714 1914 Dismantled in 1906 Civil War Lyukquar
Mhartainnvail Teindún 1398 1907 Dismantled in 1906 Civil War Mhartainnvail Royal Capital; governed directly by the Rih or appointed governor rather than a Vicar
New Aenglia Ransford 1463 1888 Taken by Fiannria following Fourth Kin War n/a
Northern Vrael No Formal Capital 1595 1913 Dismantled in 1906 Civil War Vrael
Southern Vrael Cirit Mull 1544 1914 Dismantled in 1906 Civil War Vrael
Srathlann Sethsport 1475 Dismantled in 1906 Civil War Srathlann

Notable Vicars

History

Foundation

First Princes' War

Main Article: First Prince's War

1519-1545: First Princes' War: vicars end up victorious after a few kings (Caerls Màrtainn, Bronwyn Màrtainn, Rhys Wydd-Màrtainn) worth of fighting, and for their victory they end up with the authority to elect the King similar to the HLE's collegial electorate

the king who lost the war though continues on until 1557 and then he dies and his son presses hereditary claim, and while the vicars do elect him they say "shit let's not make a habit of this" he reigns and the same thing happens on his (Cledwyn Wydd-Màrtainn) death maybe 1570 or so except the vicars refuse and the second vicarial(?) war begins

Second Prince's War

Main Article: Second Prince's War

1571-1583: Second Prince's War:  this second one is very bloody and just an overall mess, whole dynastic noble local families are wiped out, at least one king (Conan Wydd-Màrtainn, Ruaridh Sutharlan, Banrih (Queen) Cailean Suthar-Màrtainn) of fhanrrenenoit4hlwtf is killed in battle; it ends in a brokered peace; the king's election will continue, but the vicars will also be elected by local nobles, and since so many local families died, the right to appoint new local nobility reverts to the King (Donan Sutharlan-Màrtainn), who begins to solely grant lifetime peerages, i.e., no hereditary succession for the local holdings. typically he will continue to appoint from one family, but they now remain local to the crown - while the king could appoint hereditary nobility, none do because that's a stupid move, and so the local nobles (appointed by the king) begin electing as vicar basically anyone the king wants to keep their power in the family - this allows titles to be sold by the crown, too

Royal Era Proper

this system continues until the 1690s when the kings (Sean Suthar-Màrtainn) begin to realize hey, we can just buy off the still remaining hereditary local lords


External conflicts and relative stability here


by 1760 or so something like, i don't know,  87% of eligible nobility voting for the vicar have been appointed by the king (Cywir Suthar-Màrtainn). so what you have in place is kind of a centralist monarchy with a nominal election system that is really just trading favors with prominent families

so the Vicariate, once a powerful institution, is basically a succession rubber stamp by that 1760 date - essentially reduced from local princes to appointed governors

This is all about on track with what I'm thinking, as by 1775 there should be no more direct ties between officers and their noble status, at least in terms of laws banning commoners or reserving positions. in practice most officers will still be educated nobles


in the 1850s or so there should be a pretty large reform movement saying yes, the monarchy is great, but we should expand who can vote for the vicar besides local royal appointees - every property owning male, perhaps. which obviously every royalist says no to, but this idea of a "Liberal Vicariate" basically becomes a major political fixation and for a couple years it's "yes, but what if the vicariate also had power to do X", "yes, but what if they could also do Y, have oversight of Z, etc" - The main rub being nobody could agree on exactly how to work out what the vicars or a theoretical representative government (at the time still a fringe movement) would work in particular, as you'd have constitutional monarchists mixing with radicals and even a few revanchist wanting the old vicar's crown electorate back, but the liberal vicariate idea remains the "respectable" liberal opposition idea


the 1860s and 70s saw a dramatic rise in lower class and middle class movements. i don't know if you're familiar with how the french revolution went down ca 1787/1788, but convening the estates general was viewed as a panacea, a solution to all problems, but consequently meant different things to different people

As you'd have constitutional monarchists mixing with radicals and even a few revanchist wanting the old vicar's crown electorate back. here the liberal vicariate is that idea, and a lot of self interested rich locals could say "what if we just made it like how it was in the 1500s"


Fhainnin Civil War and End of the Vicariates

1906, one of the reformist factions finally managed to blow up the king (Ruaridh Sutharlan) and a couple key throne supporters at once, which kicked off a civil war between socialist, monarchist, and republican factions

with the republicans and socialist allying and said socialists immediately getting shanked in the back


maybe the direct reason for the bombing of the king in 1906 is

after a year and a half of major tumult, riots, etc, he finally decides to concede but only on the original point of landed male suffrage for the vicars

and when the vicars get together and say "we would like to also have authority over X, Y, and Z"

he says no

which is the breaking point for most radicals