Talk:Occidental world
"Occidental", intended originally as a shorthand for the Christian world surrounding the Odoneru, has lead to considerable controversy. within this controversy are the "inclusivists", who use the term to refer to the similar Christian civilizational current which surrounds the Odoneru Ocean. Opposing them are the "exclusivists", who disagree internally about definitions themselves, although almost all agree on excluding Coscivians from the definition. Many favor a position which only includes Levantia and the Latinic and Istroyan portions of Sarpedon. The "grand exclusivist" position entirely discards nationalities and countries that do not descend from the Latinic and Istroyan traditions rather exclusively, discarding all of Ultmar and northern Levantia.
"Kiro-Occidental" is an inclusive compromise term intended to refer to a greater cultural world which refers to the traditionally "Occcidental world" of all Christian or Christian-descent nations of Levantia and the Latinic and Istroyan portions of Sarpedon while also making reference to the Coscivian civilization on equal footing to the Occident. The term has seen increasing academic and popular use, especially within Urcea.